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‘We are witnessing a moment’: RedNote users in China welcome TikTok refugees

Connection between Chinese and American netizens ‘genuinely beautiful’, writes one new RedNote user

Anthony Cuthbertson

Thursday 16 January 2025 07:04 GMT

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TikTok users in the US have moved to other Chinese-owned apps like Rednote and Lemon8 ahead of a ban on 19 January, 2025
TikTok users in the US have moved to other Chinese-owned apps like Rednote and Lemon8 ahead of a ban on 19 January, 2025 (iStock/ Getty Images)
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TikTok users in the US have reported receiving a warm welcome on other Chinese-owned apps amid a looming ban of the hugely popular social media platform.

China-based Lemon8 and RedNote have both experienced a surge in downloads from US users as the 19 January deadline for the TikTok ban approaches, each topping the app charts.

TikTok, which is owned by ByteDance, will be removed from Apple and Android app stores on Sunday if the Chinese firm fails to either sell the app to an approved buyer or convince the US Supreme Court to delay the ban.

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The Supreme Court has signaled that it does not plan to prevent the TikTok ban from coming into force, while ByteDance has given no indication that it intends to sell the app.

In anticipation of the ban coming into force, TikTok users have been seeking out alternative social media apps.

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“My roommate downloaded RedNote (the Chinese version of Pinterest/Insta) like six hours ago and he’s already saying ‘Big ups to Mao Zedong’,” wrote X user James Ray in a post on Tuesday. “We are witnessing a moment.”

Chinese users have joked to the new US users about being spies, while others have shared pictures of their children and pets.

“This is a pretty strange moment,” wrote one X user in a post on Tuesday.

“It’s the first time in a very long time that Chinese and American netizens are freely interacting without an intermediary or VPN. I doubt it will last long before XHS (RedNote) splits them apart. But I hope they don’t. It’s genuinely beautiful.”

Some users have referred to it as “2025’s Berlin Wall”, with the newly-popular apps breaking through the cyber barrier of China’s Great Firewall.

Despite being owned by a Chinese company, TikTok is not actually available in China. Instead, ByteDance operates a similar app called Douyin in its home country, which is not available internationally.

Other social media apps that are popular in the US, such as Instagram and X (formerly Twitter), are also blocked in China as part of the country’s strict censorship laws, meaning web users in either country rarely interact.

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TikTok’s upcoming ban is centred on national security concerns, with lawmakers claiming that its Chinese ties could result in spying or political manipulation of people’s feeds, but such concerns have not deterred US users from seeking out other Chinese-owned alternatives.

TikTok has consistently denied the allegations, claiming that the US ban is unconstitutional and goes against Americans’ First Amendment rights.

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Democrats push for release of second part of Jack Smith’s Trump report

Merrick Garland pressed to use final days to release report on president-elect’s retention of classified documents

Robert Tait in WashingtonThu 16 Jan 2025 15.14 GMTShare

Democrats are pressing Merrick Garland, the US attorney general, to use his last days in office to release the second volume of the special counsel’s report about Donald Trump’s retention of classified documents.

The demand comes after the justice department this week published the first part of Jack Smith’s report, which looked at the president-elect’s attempts to overturn the results of the 2020 election, including inciting a violent mob to attack the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.

That report concluded that Trump would have faced probable conviction had he not won the 2024 election, after which Smith – who resigned last week – dropped the case against him.

“It is in the public interest for the Department of Justice to expeditiously release the second volume of special counsel Smith’s report so the American people have as full an accounting as possible of Donald Trump’s lawless and criminal conduct,” said Jamie Raskin, the top Democrat on the House of Representatives’ judiciary committee.

The second volume is being withheld on the order of a US federal judge in Florida, Aileen Cannon, on the basis that it would prejudice the case of two co-defendants, Walt Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira, who face charges of conspiring with Trump to hide a trove of documents from his first term as president at his Mar-a-Lago home.

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The report is believed to detail Trump’s efforts to illegally withhold and conceal a large number of documents containing highly sensitive national security secrets after he removed them from the White House. They were eventually retrieved by FBI agents in 2022 after the justice department authorised a search of Trump’s home.

Cannon has scheduled a court hearing for Friday to consider the case for releasing or withholding the second volume.

Garland – who has been criticised by Democrats, including Joe Biden, for waiting too long to appoint a special counsel to investigate Trump – has said he intends to keep the report secret while waiting for the case against Nauta and De Oliveira to play out – but with that case expected to be shelved after Trump’s incoming administration takes over the justice department next week, that would mean Smith’s charges would be unlikely to ever see the light of day.

Garland has suggested releasing the report just to House and Senate judiciary committee members for review.

But Democrats on the House judicial committee said that was insufficient and that a wider release to put the report in the public domain is essential.skip past newsletter promotion

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“It is in the very nature of American democracy that the people have a right to know of the public actions of their public officials, and it is essential to the rule of law that Justice Department special counsel reports continue to be available and accessible to the public,” they wrote to Garland.

“As Attorney General, it is incumbent upon you to take all necessary steps to ensure the report is released before the end of your tenure, including, if necessary, by simply dismissing the remaining criminal charges against Mr Trump’s co-conspirators, Waltine Nauta and Carlos De Oliveira.”

Trump’s lawyers will try to persuade Cannon – who was appointed to the bench by Trump and has consistently ruled in his favour in the case – to prohibit even a limited disclosure to Congress, arguing that the report could leak.

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